nVidia vs. ATI, Intel vs AMD

[PDP]_SlenderMan · Oct 5th 2012, 6:26pm

I only played with nvidia cards so far...it´s normal for me to use it and because I already know nvidia I think I´m not going to buy any other card.

InZanity · Oct 5th 2012, 8:12pm

bestbest333 wrote:

...Why wouldn't programming be my thing? It is and will be. And, I wasn't trolling. I don't plan on playing Serious Sam 3, Battlefield 3 or CoD Black Ops 2 (specially CoD). The problem with my other PC was that it wouldn't run ANYTHING that was after 2005. I don't care if this system isn't 100% new (i.e. not the last GPU/CPU that were made as of now); it can run games that I wanted to play, and that aren't made in 2012 (I almost never play new games as they're just perfections of the past, not really inovations). So, yeah..it can run games I want to play. And I mean the games that were before 2010; I can run most of those and I'm happy with it. I may need to change my PC again, as who knows what CPUs/GPUs/Games will come out in the future; but for now, this'll do. I can't see why it would be shitty.

I'm not saying this in offense, but if somebody is wrong about something, that doesn't make that person either a troll or stupid (programming isn't related to hardware, mostly). So, if I was wrong above in some points, that doesn't make me stupid, or somebody that shouldn't touch computers or do programming on them. I don't really care if I was wrong or not above, but the current PC is doing well enough for me. As I said, I don't plan to play CoDs.

And yes, I agree; the Ghz, VRAM and RAM do matter; what I wanted to point out is that they're not the only ones that do matter. And, XP, 2000 > Vista and 7. I can confirm that. Of course, there are some points Windows 7 may be better than XP (for example, compatibility issues), but they're fewer than the advantages 2000 and XP have over Vista and 7.

Getting a computer with those specs would be a total waste of money (and getting the parts might actually be more expensive than newer stuff), you can get a decent setup that will last alot longer for a good price these days, something like i3/i5, 4gig ram and a 1 gig gfx card
As a programmer you have a basic understanding on how the hardware works and what makes it faster, you show no such understanding in your post
Never had 2000 but win7 is actually better than xp in many ways, any "geek" can confirm this

bestbest333 · Oct 5th 2012, 8:18pm

Let's just end the argument; I'm happy with the current setup as I can rule what I need and want on it. I do have a basic understanding of the PC hardware, but basic understanding doesn't mean understanding EVERY single thing about it.

MrBraveBubble · Oct 5th 2012, 11:52pm

Best combination is nVidia + Intel trust me.

bestbest333 · Oct 5th 2012, 11:54pm

I trust you; just because your avatar is Stephano (and because I only used nVidia and Intel)

karlsanada10 · Oct 6th 2012, 3:16am

i5-3450 + Nvidia 660 Ti will be the best combination for now.

GafferGames · Dec 16th 2012, 1:40am

I personally use Nvidia and Intel, while all my friends seem to be in love with AMD, AMD is good in some aspects, but the Intel/Nvidia combo is just so powerful, yes you do have to pay a bit more for it, but the performance increase is definitely worth it!

karlsanada10 · Dec 16th 2012, 12:21pm

AMD was the best in mid bidget before but was overpowered by Intel. Same with their cards by Nvidia. And how the hell did you still see this thread?

GafferGames · Dec 16th 2012, 11:22pm

I agree :L
Cause, I was on a computer thread and this was in related threads.

Rawr0s · Dec 16th 2012, 11:38pm

Well, financially, AMD is in deep trouble. Let's see how long they stick around.
arstechnica.com/information-te…turing-as-sales-plummmet/

karlsanada10 · Dec 17th 2012, 4:51am

I take back what I said. The update on the drivers made big impact on AMD's card. Like 30% increase and now a little bit stronger than some GTX cards.

kotaku.com/5964022/the-best-gr…md-current+gen-comparison

Berticus · Dec 17th 2012, 5:01am

As someone who's used both AMD + nvidia, I gotta say nvidia win hands down. Had so many problems with AMD cards before. I've had to return up to 3 7870s last year because by some stroke of bad luck all the cards were delivered "dead". Finally, made the decision to switch to nVidia some time in april this year with the 680 and never looked back. Still using gtx 680 till today and 0 problems + really fast gameplay. 100+fps in crysis 2 and bf3.

Never used an ati cpu so don't really have an opinion on intel vs ati but from what i've heard intel wins in that department as well.

karlsanada10 · Dec 17th 2012, 5:38am

You've got it the other. ATI is GPU. But AMD bought ATI so it's also AMD.xD

Berticus · Dec 17th 2012, 5:41am

Woops my bad xD

grasmann · Dec 17th 2012, 8:03am

I'm using AMD and ATI ( basically AMD too now ), since I built my first pc ( yes I never bought a single complete system ).
I never had a problem with my hardware, and I never had driver issues.

It's true that you have the advantage to let the GPU calculate physx with nvidia, but personally I just switch physx off in games where it's heavily used.

Apart from that it's also possible to use two graphics cards:
AMD for graphics, and a cheap low-end nvidia card for physx.
However nvidia tried to prevent that, by deactivating gpu-physx support as soon as a non-nvidia card is detected in the system.
They said it was because of compatibility reasons, but with some tricks you can still get it working, and it's working just fine.
That's one of the reasons why I like AMD more: AMD doesn't deactivate features if another graphics card by nvidia is used. XD

In general I guess you can say that AMD has a lower price while intel has more power at a lower energy cost.
AMD CPUs usually get a lot hotter, which means they translate more of the used energy into heat.

Magragosh · Dec 17th 2012, 8:55am

My setup is
Amd phenom II x6 which is a 6 core cpu that i overclocked to 4.25 ghz
Sapphire radeon hd 6790 1GB gddr5 and i can play almost any game on highest settings on it and sapphire have no driver problems.
16 GB of RAM
120GB ssd drive for windows and 2TB for games and stuff
cheap motherboard but still works like a charm

I am really pleased with amd as long as you replace the original cpu fan that makes some noise after a while.
And for ati graphic card get sapphire they have really good support and drivers.

s0lite · Mar 21st 2013, 3:13am

Intel and Nvidia. I only have AMD on my laptop, going to upgrade to a desktop to Intel and Nvidia later on.

The_leviathan · Mar 21st 2013, 3:25am

I have Intel and NVIDIA on my Mac. Hasn't failed me yet.

karlsanada10 · Mar 21st 2013, 3:29am

Price Top Pick
$100 - $150 GeForce GTX 650 Ti
$150 - $200 Radeon HD 7850
$200 - $250 GeForce GTX 660
$250 - $300 GeForce GTX 660 Ti
$300 - $400 Radeon HD 7950 Boost
$400 and up Radeon HD 7970

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