Gaming pc help!

^Phenom II is still better than AMD's bulldozer.:))

Well, I've done my research and compared to my current Intel Core 2 duo, it blows this thing out of the water.
It's also going to be about 30 degrees cooler, if not more.
These old processors are just out of whack. :o

Phenom II what anyway? Phenom II X4 955BE? xD

Yup, that's the one I ended up with. It's cheap enough for a great overclock. :3

Yep, one of the best procie for oc-ing in my opinion.

Agreed and Chris, nice system.

Hopefully AMD's future Piledriver, Steamroller, and especially the Excavator series should be increasingly better. Sooner or later those Phenoms will be discontinued, but at least they have a fighting chance against a 2500k. I'm not pro-Intel nor pro-AMD but I've got to say, AMD failed hard with their Bulldozer CPUs. If anything, you should get an AM3+ motherboard so you can use a Phenom II X4 and then in the future, while AMD said that Steamroller is going to be AM3+ compatible, you can buy a future better and faster processor(Steamroller) in 2013.

The codename for Piledriver is "Vishera" and that "AMD says that this 2nd-generation FX-series processor would offer up to 20% to 30% better performance increase under digital media workloads.". So if they are planning on doing at least a 20% increase in performance as well in the next 2 series then the last series, Excavator, will be 60%-90% faster than the Bulldozer CPUs we have currently. Which is saying A LOT since that will easily crush anything we have in the market today with the possible exception of Intel's 3930k CPUs.

What's really easy to remember is the model numbers.

For Bulldozer we have;
FX-8150-8 Core
FX-8120-8 Core
FX-6100-6 Core
FX-4100-4 Core

Piledriver's is;
FX-8350
FX-8320
FX-6300
FX-4320

So with this we can get that they are going to be increasing by 200 each series, so the future model numbers we can guess are, 8550-8520-6500-4540 for Steamroller and 8750-8720-6700-4760 for the last series, Excavator.

I didn't know they would continue making procie, I though they had stopped and focus on mobile procies.

Nope, and Piledriver should be releasing July-September, so stay tuned for that and they have 2 more series going. Pretty cool, hopefully they can live up to the what they say.

HOPEFULLY! I still have little hope for AMD.xD

I still have hope for them, their Bulldozer CPUs received a nice boost in performance with some motherboard BIOS updates and Windows 7 updates as well, but not enough to beat an i7 quad core and barely beat an i5 quad core.

I really can't wait for Piledriver because if AMD held their statement then expect to see some kick*** CPUs from AMD in the next 2 years. Hopefully this will lower CPUs a bit more but knowing Intel even if their Sandy/Ivy bridge CPUs will be outdone and outdated they won't go lower than $50-$100 than what they are priced at now unless Intel releases some new CPUs.

Maybe Piledriver will release along with the GTX 660ti later this month. So much new hardware!

If you can't figure out how to build your own computer then buy "SUPER-HYPER CRYSIS RUNNING PC 4000"

You didn't specify which hard drive, my advice is to get a solid state HDD hard drive and not a SATA, will make things run much more smoothly

^SSD? It costs too much and it's not that fast actually. It just makes SOME programs like OS, Editing softwares fast. But it doesn't improve gaming and it also uses SATA.:)