The F word- Feminism.

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    • The F word- Feminism.

      I am generally curious to see what everyone thinks of feminism. Now, this can be a touchy subject so I will politely ask you that you can be respectful of everyone's opinion. That can be a really hard thing to do (especially if they are one big twat) but it would be nice if we could all grow up and have a discussion. I understand people have different views please do not bash others, ****THIS MAY CONTAIN TRIGGERING CONTENT****

      I personally think feminism is great, woman don't have to put with sexist bullshit. And some people have screwed up definitions of feminism.
      fem·i·nism
      /ˈfeməˌnizəm/
      Noun
      The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men.

      Now, friend, feminism does NOT mean women hate men. It is the belief that men AND women to have equal rights. Now, I'm not naïve enough to say women have all the attributes all men have, and men do not have all the attributes women have.
      Okay, so as you may be aware, some men do not believe women should be characters in video games and/or give females shit about playing video games. Obviously NOT all men think like this, but the amount that do is quite frightening.
      Ah- and then there's rape. Can you believe some people believe it is the victim's fault for getting raped.

      Definition of Rape. The exact definition of "rape" differs from state-to-state within the U.S. and by country internationally. In the US, it is often called "criminal sexual conduct in the first degree". Generally, rape is defined as sexual contact or penetration achieved:
      without consent, or
      with use of physical force, coercion, deception, threat, and/or
      when the victim is:
      •mentally incapacitated or impaired,
      •physically impaired (due to voluntary or involuntary alcohol or drug consumption)
      •asleep or unconscious.
      One of the most critical issues regarding rape is consent. Sexual activity should not take place unless both parties have freely given consent, and consent is understood by both parties.
      •silence does not mean consent.
      •if consent is given under duress (physical or emotional threats), then it is not given freely or willingly and sex with a person consenting under duress is rape
      •if someone is impaired due to alcohol or drugs, that person is deemed incapable of consenting and sex with that person is rape (even if the impaired person says "yes")
      IF THE PERSON DOES NOT CLEARLY AGREE TO HAVE SEX WITH YOU, THAT PERSON DOES NOT CONSENT! IF THE PERSON IS WEARING SLUTTY CLOTHES- IT IS NOT CONSENT!
      ((Men can be raped too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
      Okay- now lets get on the topic of being called a slut. Men don't get called sluts. Only women. A girl has a lot of sex? She's a slut. A boy has a lot of sex? Oh, he's just being a boy. If you think like that, well, then I pity you and your closed minded life.

      "No one is a slut. 'Slut' is a made-up word to keep woman from having as much fun as men. A person who enjoys sex is just a person and a person who is a virgin is also a person and everyone should lay off each other's sex lives. Retire the word 'slut' please." -20 Things We Need To Stop Talking About In 2013 by Gaby Dunn.

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    • I can't help but feel like I'll get tons of hate for this post, but YOLO!
      Let's take a look at feminism from an evolutionary viewpoint.

      As much as I support feminism and I value what it stands for, in this current state of the world, it is impossible to achieve complete equality. It's not because it's a stupid idea or that it's hard to do, it's just simply the world's culture. I can guarantee that in every culture, every kid has been raised to believe that mom had this set of jobs and dad had this set of jobs. It's through years upon years of this form of conditioning that creates this concept inside every youth's head that men and women are different.
      Historically, this split is seen in essentially all of human (and just about all mammals) ancestry. It's not something spoken of, it's something that naturally happened. It's wired in our brains that (BRACE FOR SEXIST COMMENT) women instinctively want to tend to their children and men need to supply for their family.
      With that being said, there is a bright side. The human brain has a unique ability to rewire certain brain circuits and, essentially, grant new properties to the human. Feral children (kids raised by animals) support this claim, since their brains have been rewired to act like wolves and their vocal cords basically shape themselves to become like the wolves.
      Even with the human's ability to counteract natural instincts, it's still impossible for humans to counteract sexist instincts. Why, you ask? Sure, it's simple to raise one kid under non-sexist conditions through strategic sheltering and blockage from the media. But how will this happen on a global scale? There are a select few people in the world who are willing to go through the effort to make it happen, but the people that don't want to outnumber them by 1,000,000 to 1.

      Your last point can also be explained by human nature. Let's imagine a village of primitive humans who do not have the concept of love or relationship and assume that all sexual acts lead to pregnancy. What this means is that for a man, when he has sex, he impregnates a woman, but he is not limited. He is still free to have sex. When a woman has sex, she becomes pregnant and cannot have sex for another 9 months.
      Organisms are always concerned about keeping their gene pool alive (i.e. creating many and strong offspring). Women cannot create many kids, so they keep their gene pool alive by selecting strong, healthy men as mates. This creates the stereotype that women do not have sex often (Side note and fun fact, this is also why the female is generally the gender that gets to pick the mate in mammals). Men, however, do not have to worry about the pregnancy time, so he keeps his gene pool alive by having sex as many times as he can. This creates the stereotype that having sex a lot is just being a man.

      To sum my whole argument up, I'm saying that sexism isn't something that needs to be taught or enforced by society (even though it is), sexism is the remains of what humans have evolved as natural instincts and behaviours. It takes several generations for biological changes to occur and evolution to be evident. For feminism to take full effect, we need a global hand in this, and we also need to be patient with it. These two key factors are what prevents feminism from happening, because people just don't have the patience or they're just not motivated enough.
    • I don't like the term feminism. Feminists wants equality but the name of your cause is biased to women.

      I prefer just be an advocate of equality (yes I made that up). Equality is about more than men and women, it's about everything. Equality across all. Feminists do good things (most of them), but they should focus on equal rights for all, not just bringing women up to the standard of men.
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    • I agree with equality of rights for both gender but i don't agree on equality for all the people.there should be justice.about the rape i don't know,i didn't really get it.i don't live in USA.as far as I'm concerned,if you rape some one in my country they will hang you which some might it's very harsh but i say it's really good!same thing for pedophiles!it's one of the few aspects of this place that i'm happy with (most of the serious crimes end up with execution). About the slut.well i don't define some one who have a lot of sex as a slut.but i define people who cheat about serious stuff like relationship,enjoy bother others,have bad attitudes,annoying,etc..slut.so you can say in my opinion Slut=catty bitch and annoying person.i define asshole,bitch and faggot pretty much the same way.and one more thing i don't have ANY respect for people's opinion cuz respect for opinion is earned...it's not like if some one says : 2+2=5 and this is my opinion you should respect it! i would say yes sure.No!!!! I won't Object to it because it's his/her opinion and everyone is allowed to have an opinion but i would definitely not respect it!but what you really have to respect is the people themselves as human beings who have human rights and that's it.
    • For unknown when i was a kid, i thought that men are batter then girls, because all the TV shows there were on, always is the women that asks for help, and today its something that make me say, god damn you should think about this again, but there is that tapes of people who says "men will always be batter then womens", and im like pack theses guys, they don't know a half of what a women does in her life.
      But when i realazed that that meaning of"men batter then women" is not true, when in school, girls was batter and faster then me, and i wasn't fat or anything, they were really really good, but this is the point when i understand that the meaning "men are better then women" is not true
      and when i got to high school, ive understand that men CANT LIVE without womens.
      this thing of unfair equality thing is pissing me off, think yourself, if you were a women (i mean only the men who read this post) you had to give birth..... GIVE BIRTH probbobly the most Hardest thing in the whole world, and that why i admire women, that they remain women.
      and who ever says that "men is batter then women" is nothing more then just a bully that need to be ignored
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    • Please note that this is typed with a phone and therefore it might not portray my opinion correctly due to the fact its hard to type on this, please also note that I am not out to bash or whatever.

      Overall, I think feminism is great as men and women should be treated equally everywhere, but this also should mean that women and men should endure the same workload (as they want to be treated equally as men) ,but I don't get why women then complain about the working load at building sites for example (which is mainly a mens job due to our physical build) that they can't keep up with the pace.

      I mean like , first you want equal rights and treatment on working places and then you complain that you can't handle it and want 'special' treatment, but again overall its nice that men and women are treated more equally.



    • I personally think that feminism is a great thing. I feel like us women could do so much more if we weren't limited by the opinion others give us.
      However, I do believe that men and women should be equal. Both treated the same, both respected.
      When I was young, my dad abused my mum and treated her like his personal maidservant. He had some sort of sick idea about women, that they weren't as equal. It was horrible. I won't accept inequality within genders. I just can't.

      About rape, I agree. I think it should be harshly punished, to be honest.

      However, I don't agree about sluts. I know many people will disagree with this, but I can't tolerate slutty women OR men. I know humans are animals and all, and breeding is in our nature, but since we are more advanced beings than most animals I believe we should at least have some self respect and stop flinging ourselves at each other non stop. I might be called insecure, but I HATE it when girls wear extremely short shorts or skirts that practically show their ass. It's disgusting. They might just as well go naked. I understand if it's with a couple and stuff because I feel like that's a little different, but just... I also despise when boys act like pimps and treat women like b****es.

      About 70% of the girls in my school dress in an extremely slutty way, and are always covered in make-up. I don't want the world to become full of people like that. I really don't. I was bullied lots for not being one of those girls, and I just can't accept them.
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      I agree with equality of rights for both gender but i don't agree on equality for all the people.there should be justice.about the rape i don't know,i didn't really get it.i don't live in USA.as far as I'm concerned,if you rape some one in my country they will hang you which some might it's very harsh but i say it's really good!same thing for pedophiles!it's one of the few aspects of this place that i'm happy with (most of the serious crimes end up with execution). About the slut.well i don't define some one who have a lot of sex as a slut.but i define people who cheat about serious stuff like relationship,enjoy bother others,have bad attitudes,annoying,etc..slut.so you can say in my opinion Slut=catty bitch and annoying person.i define asshole,bitch and faggot pretty much the same way.and one more thing i don't have ANY respect for people's opinion cuz respect for opinion is earned...it's not like if some one says : 2+2=5 and this is my opinion you should respect it! i would say yes sure.No!!!! I won't Object to it because it's his/her opinion and everyone is allowed to have an opinion but i would definitely not respect it!but what you really have to respect is the people themselves as human beings who have human rights and that's it.


      Those people choose those actions and should obviously be punished. Equality should be across all people regarding the circumstances of their birth.
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