Why I think PewDiePie is not a good youtuber, and what is generally bad with the ''bro army''

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  • I appreciate the feedback but I just don't agree with you on this one. :P

    I think I changed a lot as a YouTuber and what my videos consist of over the years.
    Personally I can see a huge difference and I'm pretty content with it. :)

    The problem with YouTube viewers is that most of them want the same shit over and over but in a slightly different package.
    Making any drastic noticeable changes is always going to be automatically viewed negatively.

    If you got tired of watching my videos that's totally understandable, I stopped watching many people on YouTube.
    But I don't think that makes them bad youtubers.

    -pewds

  • PewDiePie wrote:

    I think I changed a lot as a YouTuber and what my videos consist of over the years.
    Personally I can see a huge difference and I'm pretty content with it. :)
    Yeah your videos in 2011, are different to now in ways, Agree with you here.

    PewDiePie wrote:

    The problem with YouTube viewers is that most of them want the same shit over and over but in a slightly different package.
    Making any drastic noticeable changes is always going to be automatically viewed negatively.
    Exactly 100% spot on, People will always moan and say negative things if you do something they don't "specifically" like themselves where other viewers will enjoy it

  • Twixie wrote:

    Well, sir...

    ..you are correct!



    No but seriously, I agreed with pretty much everything you said. And let's not even talk about the fact that the fanbase is almost full of under 13-year-old kids.


    ...sitting in a dark basement; drink a heavy energy drink, using bad language to friends and family, the kids who do watch content that is not reccomended for them, will turn out to be awful children. To whoever said that this generation of children has turned to shit or whatever it was, you are correct.

  • PewDiePie wrote:

    I think I changed a lot as a YouTuber and what my videos consist of over the years.
    Personally I can see a huge difference and I'm pretty content with it. :)

    The problem with YouTube viewers is that most of them want the same shit over and over but in a slightly different package.
    Making any drastic noticeable changes is always going to be automatically viewed negatively.
    The problem is, your humour hasn't changed and seems to cater to 10-15 year olds. This is why the bro-army is predominantly immature and one of the worst fan-bases ever (AND IT IS). I too must say that I have grown tired of your videos and your community, simply because it has become annoying to watch and be a part of. Stop catering to the children and go back to making the channel all about you. I can remember you saying things along the lines of "If you're not doing what you want to do, and having fun with it, then you are doing it wrong"... giving into the demands of teens is "doing it wrong". You seem like an intelligent guy, and if you be yourself you will probably lose viewers (because it won't be young teens watching you), but at least your community will be half decent.

    BTW I do understand that it is a pointless argument to make, seeing as how this is your livelihood and views = money. You will get hate no matter what you do, because when you have 6 million subscribers or whatever it is up to now, you can't please everyone, but I do think that by catering to a younger crowd and not evolving (and you aren't in spite of what you think), that you are actually going to hurt your long term success. I may be completely wrong, and it is your life to live... but food for thought.

    Also, props for the level of maturity being held in this thread... was totally expecting a bunch of flaming and "F*** U PEWDZ IS DAH BEZT!"

  • It's been ages since I've visited this forum and the main reason is that back then I didn't find most of the conversations very mature. I'm a nice person in real life and what I hate most on forums like this is the way people turn into brainless idiots (duh? what did i expect?) But now, I must say that I've never been so surprised by a post made on a fansite.

    I disagree with the point made but that isn't really my point I guess. People have different opinions of course, and even though I'm not a 15-year-old kid, Pewdie's kind of humour hits the right spot for me I guess. My real point was that what I really appreciate is that everyone has taken time to read these opinions made by others instead of hating on them immediately. I was expecting to see -1000 reputation on 'TheAwfulTruth'... I don't mingle with other 'bros' so I can't really say does the Bro army consists of immature kids or not, but based on what I've seen today the fanbase has taken a better turn!

    Perhaps the internet can be a nice place after all, piece and love and flower power and all that...

  • PewDiePie wrote:


    The problem with YouTube viewers is that most of them want the same shit over and over but in a slightly different package.
    Making any drastic noticeable changes is always going to be automatically viewed negatively.

    -pewds


    While I agree with you, I also disagree with you at the same time. The first sentence in your quote is 100% true, viewers love to watch the things they love. That is why we have hundreds of episodes of Pokemon and all those other cartoons. You are to your fans what Pokemon is to its own fanbase.

    Now this is where I begin to disagree with you. Is your ending of the sentence supposed to be a negative opinion in its own right? Because a slightly different package is actually a great thing depending on how you take it.

    I have watched some of your videos and from what I can take from it you like to do your commentary and then put subs over it for quotes you think are the most interesting. You do this for a lot of your videos.

    So the first thing you have is the horror game playthrough, subtitle quotes and the slow motion screams. Have I missed something out? I probably have :( (This isn't including the other game genres you have played)

    Now the next thing to think about is...where do you go from there? Now as you may remember I mentioned PokeMon and how its sameness obviously caters to its audience, or it wouldn't still be around. The thing about PokeMon is that it ironically evolves in what it features aesthetically. Things like new PokeMon, characters, villains, places, yadda, yadda. So then how do you translate that into your own channel?

    I would give you quite a few ideas but it isn't my job to tell you how to improve your channel, that is for you to figure out.

    I would say though not to get comfortable with the viewership you have now, it can be seen that your support pillar is sadly beginning to wobble a bit, which sucks for any channel and I would hate that to happen to you because you are trying to do one of the same things as me in my own career adventure.

    My point is to start getting creative Felix. Get that massive cog of yours working and show your fanbase that you don't want to just be a one trick pony. As you know we are all here to support and discuss your decisions because you, like many of us are a proud content creator.
    There is always time for muffins.

  • l0l_cabbage wrote:

    PewDiePie wrote:

    The problem with YouTube viewers is that most of them want the same shit over and over but in a slightly different package.
    Making any drastic noticeable changes is always going to be automatically viewed negatively.

    Please, don't make YouTube videos for your audience, do them for yourself.

    I've had something in my mind that I wanted to say ever since I saw this thread, but I couldn't understand what at the time. Now I do. Dis guy just told you all you need to know - "Please, don't make YouTube videos for your audience, do them for yourself.".

    I recall Pewds saying something along the lines "just do it for yourself, not others". And now, Pewds is just thinking about his fanbase, scared to lose them. It's understandable, yeah, it's his income of money, but it's just... Lame. Pewds went from a cool gamer kiddo to a "bro-army" controlled kiddo. Meh.

  • one thing to say

    Felix doesnt work for you and i'm sorry that i maybe sounded like a fanboy but i trully belive that if you realy wanted him to change you wouldn't post this claimant post on his fans furom
    you would post it as a suggestion
    so please keep the bad attitude out from others people concern

  • My feeling is PewDiePie does his own style as a YouTuber, but I agree with the very first post in the criticism that he does keep to mostly the same things, which is not a bad thing if it appeals to most of his fanbase, but I get that some of us get disinterested seeing similar stuff. I mean, yes, he's tried to do things differently, but it never lasts for long. I feel as if I was one of the few people who liked the new camera style thing he did for "Cat Lady", which I found it be awesome. I perceived that he removed it because of all the endless, endless stream of "omfg I hate it" comments, but I can't say for sure. Felix as PewDiePie .... I would say he is a people pleaser. Or at least that's my perception of it. I don't know him personally and I never will, so I don't know his game plan for his channel. But I feel he wants to make people happy, which is not a bad thing, but he needs to think for himself too. He wants his fans to be happy with the content he puts up in his videos. I guess it feels easier to just stay in the safe zone of doing kind of the same thing on his channel so most of his fanbase will feel like it appeals to them. But at the same time, I want him to be able to play the games or do the things he wants to do; not what some of his fans beg him to do. Sometimes he plays games based on recommendations by subscribers, which I feel can be bad because he might he playing a game just for the heck of it because someone asked him to, and not because he actually has a true interest about the workings of the game. Again, I don't claim to know the inner workings of his mind and what kind of decision making is involved in him choosing to play a game that was recommended to him. It's just my opinion.

    I can't stand the comments section on his videos because of the people in it. There is so many things wrong with this "cult" mentality that some subscribers in the broarmy have in which they form and band together to attack or cuss out someone. I find myself being able to avoid it because I never want to be part of a group thing like that, and I feel I am in the right mindset as a 23 year old to know right from wrong.. Regardless whether if a person wrote "pewdiepie is fucking annoying" or some similar comment trashing him as a YouTuber, I don't understand the rage behind way so many people feel the need to respond and fire back an even more outrageous and disgusting response. I will thumb down people who diss him, but I won't reply or get involved.

  • portisere wrote:

    Felix doesnt work for you and i'm sorry that i maybe sounded like a fanboy but i trully belive that if you realy wanted him to change you wouldn't post this claimant post on his fans furom
    you would post it as a suggestion
    so please keep the bad attitude out from others people concern



    Please do.

    The post was edited 1 time, last by Ebenezer Scrooge ().

  • PewDiePie wrote:

    I appreciate the feedback but I just don't agree with you on this one. :P

    I think I changed a lot as a YouTuber and what my videos consist of over the years.
    Personally I can see a huge difference and I'm pretty content with it. :)

    The problem with YouTube viewers is that most of them want the same shit over and over but in a slightly different package.
    Making any drastic noticeable changes is always going to be automatically viewed negatively.

    If you got tired of watching my videos that's totally understandable, I stopped watching many people on YouTube.
    But I don't think that makes them bad youtubers.

    -pewds

    Noirproxy wrote:

    My point is to start getting creative Felix. Get that massive cog of yours working and show your fanbase that you don't want to just be a one trick pony. As you know we are all here to support and discuss your decisions because you, like many of us are a proud content creator.


    Pewds I know that you have changed for the past few years but I really have to agree with Proxy, he explained bit by bit to you except the part where you have to figure on to improving your channel. He pretty much explained it very clear.
    Good luck with what you got to do Felix. It's your channel, your world and you are the only one who can change about it.

  • PewDiePie wrote:

    I appreciate the feedback but I just don't agree with you on this one. :P

    I think I changed a lot as a YouTuber and what my videos consist of over the years.
    Personally I can see a huge difference and I'm pretty content with it. :)

    The problem with YouTube viewers is that most of them want the same shit over and over but in a slightly different package.
    Making any drastic noticeable changes is always going to be automatically viewed negatively.

    If you got tired of watching my videos that's totally understandable, I stopped watching many people on YouTube.
    But I don't think that makes them bad youtubers.

    -pewds
    Hey there, glad you read through all this.

    I guess I'll only say one more thing: When I first started watching your videos, I could sit down and watch them for a couple of hours. That was about 6 months ago. Now I can watch maybe one or two before I find it repetitive. I still enjoy them for the most part, but certain jokes are predictable now. I enjoy the sections where you talk about the game, whether you enjoy it, or find it creepy, or shout NO NO at the game. I tend to switch off at the "period" jokes, or the "don't touch my nipples" jokes, because they're in every video.

    As long as you enjoy making the videos, who you cater for is up to you. I'm just glad that you've read this feedback and thought about it.
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  • Kerrima wrote:


    I guess I'll only say one more thing: When I first started watching your videos, I could sit down and watch them for a couple of hours. That was about 6 months ago. Now I can watch maybe one or two before I find it repetitive. I still enjoy them for the most part, but certain jokes are predictable now. I enjoy the sections where you talk about the game, whether you enjoy it, or find it creepy, or shout NO NO at the game. I tend to switch off at the "period" jokes, or the "don't touch my nipples" jokes, because they're in every video.

    As long as you enjoy making the videos, who you cater for is up to you. I'm just glad that you've read this feedback and thought about it.


    Same thing here, I used to watch all of your videos when you had about 1-2 millions bros and it was enjoyable but of course it has changed for me now. Like you said Kerrima, some things are predictable.

  • obviously he has the right to do whatever he likes - but he does lose some 'more intelligent' fans because of the boring and repetitive jokes etc

    his younger audience just blindly follows him and enjoys whatever he makes, but the ones who actually think with their own brains are seriously getting bored, or at least I am. I hardly watch any of his videos anymore, and neither do I call myself a bro.

    but, well, he's getting a shitload of money. so...

    it's a shame. he really can be genuinely funny.